Asking from dead is Shirk from Quran,Sunnah and Ijma Part 2

Anbiya are Included in Mindoonillah

Imam Qurtubee said under the ayah 14 of surah fatir:

(14. If you invoke them, they hear your call; and if (in case) they were to hear, they could not grant it to you. And on the Day of Resurrection, they will disown your worshipping them. And none can inform you like Him Who is the All-Knower.)

• .Qurtubee’s Commentry: أي إن تستغيثوا بهم في النوائب لا يسمعوا دعاءكم؛ لأنها جمادات لا تبصر ولا تسمع

Meaning is If you Call them for help in hard situations then they can not hear you because they are Jamadaat, they can not see nor hear.

ثم يجوز أن يرجع هذا إلى المعبودين مما يعقل؛ كالملائكة والجن والأنبياء والشياطين؛ أي يجحدون أن يكون ما فعلتموه حقاً، وأنهم أمروكم بعبادتهم؛

كما أخبر عن عيسى بقوله:

{ مَا يَكُونُ لِيۤ أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ

. This is Possible that this ayah is for Angels,Jinn, Prophets and Satan they will Reject What have you done and they (will reject that they) told them to worship them, Like EESA ALEH SALAM will say (It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say).

Source: http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=5&tSoraNo=35&tAyahNo=14&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1

• Comment

It is also proving that Anbiya are included in Mindoonillah as some people claim that they are not included(just idols are included) so we can ask help from them(anbiya)

• Abu Al abbas Qurtubi says

"Therefore, the Muslims went to great lengths to block the tendency to do so at the grave of the Prophet (saws). They raised the dirt walls around it high, completely surrounding it and blocking off the entrances to it. Then they feared that the location of his grave might be turned into a direction for prayer, because it was in the direction the worshippers face and some of them might get the idea that facing it was an act of worship. For this reason, they built two walls at the northern corners of the grave and placed them at a slant so that they would form a triangle with on of its corners pointing to the North. In this way, no one could be able to directly face the grave while making his prayer." [al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min Talkis Kitâb Muslim (2/128)]

• It is Mentioned in Bada`i al Sanai`e 5/126

(ويكره للرجل أن يقول في دعائه أسألك بحق أنبيائك ورسلك وبحق فلان لأنه لا حق لأحد على الله سبحانه وتعالى جل شأنه

It is disliked if a person say in Dua and ask Allah with the Haq of Anbiya and Rasool....

Hadith says

Yahya related to me from Malik that Yahya ibn Said said that he had heard that khalid ibn al-Walid said to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, "I have nightmares." The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said to him, "Say, 'I seek refuge with the complete words of Allah from His anger and His punishment and the evil of His slaves, and from the evil suggestions of the shayatin and from their being present (at death).'(Muwatta Imam Malik Book #51, Hadith #51.4.9)

• Ibne Abdul Barr said in the commentary of above hadith in his At Tamheed

وفي هذا الحديث دليل على أن كلام الله - عز وجل - غير مخلوق ; لأنه لا يستعاذ بمخلوق
This hadith is evidence that Kalam of Allah is not creation because there is no Help from Creation
source of At Tamheed: http://islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=78&ID=867&idfrom=1568&idto=1892&bookid=78&startno=88

• Imam Ibnul Qayyim said in Madarij al-Salikin (1/332):
  

ومن أنواعه- : طلب الحوائج من الموتى، والاستغاثة بهم، والتوجه إليهم، وهذا أصل شرك العالم؛ فإن الميت قد انقطع عمله وهو لا يملك لنفسه ضراً ولا نفعاً،فضلاً عمن استغاث به وسأله قضاء حاجته، أو سأله أنيشفع له إلى الله فيها،

“From the forms (of Shirk): Requesting the dead for needs, seeking their aid and turning to them. This is the basis for Shirk in the world. This is because the actions of the dead have ceased. He is not able to harm or benefit himself, let alone the one who seeks his aid, or asks him to fulfil his need, or asks him to intercede for him with Allah, (end)

• Ibn Rajab Ibn Hambali

He comments on the hadith from Ibn Abbas radiyallahu anhum: “When you are asking, ask only from Allah and when you are asking for help ask only from Allah.” He comments:

اعْلَمْ أَنَّ سُؤَالَ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى دُونَ خَلْقِهِ هُوَ الْمُتَعَيَّنُ، لِأَنَّ السُّؤَالَ فِيهِ إِظْهَارُ الذُّلِّ مِنَ السَّائِلِ وَالْمَسْكَنَةِ وَالْحَاجَةِ وَالِافْتِقَارِ، وَفِيهِ الِاعْتِرَافُ بِقُدْرَةِ الْمَسْئُولِ عَلَى دَفْعِ هَذَا الضَّرَرِ، وَنَيْلِ الْمَطْلُوبِ، وَجَلْبِ الْمَنَافِعِ، وَدَرْءِ الْمَضَارِّ، وَلَا يَصْلُحُ الذُّلُّ وَالِافْتِقَارُ إِلَّا لِلَّهِ وَحْدَهُ، لِأَنَّهُ حَقِيقَةُ الْعِبَادَةِ،

“Know that asking from Allah and not from his creation is necessary. That is because when you are asking you are menafesting humility and obedience to the one whom you are asking from and with that you are alos depending on him. Therefore that contains a direct exceptance about the one who is asked is capable of removing harm, to give the desired thing so that there maybe be benefit. It is not permisible to show humility, submition and need except to Allah because these things in reality are worship.

وَكَانَ الْإِمَامُ أَحْمَدُ يَدْعُو وَيَقُولُ: اللَّهُمَّ كَمَا صُنْتَ وَجْهِي عَنِ السُّجُودِ لِغَيْرِكَ فَصُنْهُ عَنِ الْمَسْأَلَةِ لِغَيْرِكَ، وَلَا يَقْدِرُ عَلَى كَشْفِ الضُّرِّ وَجَلْبِ النَّفْعِ سِوَاهُ

Imam ahmad was making a du'a “ Ya Allah! Just as you have prevented my face from falling down from prostrating to somebody other than You, prevent me from asking from others than You.”[Jamiul Ulum wal Hikam, 1/280,281]

• Ibn Rajab al-Hambali said

(وتحقيق هذا المعنى وإيضاحه أن قول العبد لا إله إلا الله يقتضي أن لا إله له غير الله وإلآله هو الذي يطاع فلا يعصى هيبة له وإجلالا ومحبة وخوفا ورجاء وتوكلا عليه وسؤالا منه ودعاء له ولا يصلح ذلك كله

the creed of a monotheist is that Allah is considered, the one to be obeyed, the one to be feared, the ones to be loved, and the one to make dua to if you associate any of these characteristics to another creature then his monotheism is not sincere [Tehqiq Kalimatul Ikhlaas page no: 21]

• Ibn Rajab says:

"وكذلك التبرك بالآثار، فإنما كان يفعله الصحابة مع النبي-صلى الله عليه وسلم- ولم يكونوا يفعلونه مع بعضهم.. ولا يفعله التابعون مع الصحابة، مع علو قدرهم فدل على أن هذا لا يُفعل إلا مع النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم- مثل التبرك بوضوئه، وفضلاته، وشعره، وشرب فضل شرابه وطعامه.

وفي الجملة فهذه الأشياء فتنة للمعظّم وللمعظّم لما يخشى عليه من الغلو المدخل في البدعة ، وربما يترقى إلى نوع من الشرك . كل هذا إنما جاء من التشبه بأهل الكتاب والمشركين الذي نهيت عنه هذه الأمة .

وفي الحديث الذي في السنن : " ان من إجلال الله إكرام ذي الشيبة المسلم ، والسلطان المقسط ، وحامل القرآن غير الغالي فيه والجافي عنه " . فالغلو من صفات النصارى ، والجفاء من صفات اليهود ، والقصد هو المأمور به .

وقد كان السلف الصالح ينهون عن تعظيمهم غاية النهي كأنس الثوري وأحمد . وكان أحمد يقول : من أنا حتى تجيئون إلى ؟ اذهبوا اكتبوا الحديث ، وكان إذا سئل عن شيء ، يقول : سلوا العلماء . وإذا سئل عن شيء من الورع يقول : أنا لا يحل لي أن أتكلم في الورع ، لو كان بشر حياً تكلم في هذا .

وسئل مرة عن الإخلاص فقال : اذهب إلى الزهاد ، إي شيء نحن تجيء إلينا ؟ وجاء إليه رجل فمسح يده ثيابه ومسح بهما وجهه ، فغضب الإمام أحمد وأنكر ذلك أشد الإنكار وقال : عمن أخذتم هذا الأمر ؟

"Although the Companions sought tabarruk with the Prophet, peace be upon him, they never did so with each other. Nor did the Tabi'un do so with the Companions, despite their tremendous rank..... This shows that it is not to be done; it could also evolve into shirk. All of this constitutes imitation of the People of the Book and the Mushriks which this ummah has been forbidden from ...A man came to him(Imam Ahmad) and he wiped his hands on his clothes, And wiped his face, Imam Ahmad became angry and denied that of the most denial and said: from whom you have learnt this?[ الحكم الجديرة بالإذاعة. Page 46 and 47]

• Qadhi shawkani said in (شرح الصدور بتحريم رفع القبور)Page no: 10

، صار تحت أطباق الثرى، لا يقدر على أن يجلب لنفسه نفعا ولا يدفع عنها ضرا، كما قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فيما أمره الله أن يقول: (لا أملك لنفسينفعا ولا ضرا). فانظر كيف قال سيد البشر وصفوة اللهمن خلقه بأمر ربه أنه لا يملك لنفسه ضرا ولا نفعا ، وكذلك قال فيما صح عنه " يا فاطمة بنت محمد لاأغني عنك من الله شيئا. "

They are under mud, They have no authority of good and Bad for their own self, nor they have power to prevent the pain of any other, like ALLAH told Prophet Peace be upon him to tell the people (al araf 188). Say : "I possess no power over benefit or harm to myself.

Same like He said to his beloved Daughter “O Faatimah bint Muhammad, I cannot help you before Allah in any way”?.(end)

• Qadhi Shawkani went on and said

فيا عجبًا! كيف يطمع من له أدنى نصيب من علم، أو أقل حفظ من عرفان أن ينفعه أو يضره فرد من أفراد أمة هذا النبي الذي يقول عن نفسه هذه المقالة ؟والحال أنه فرد من التابعين له المقتدين بشرعه.

فهل سمعت أذنَاكَ- أرشدك الله- بضلال عقل أكبر من هذا الضلال الذي وقع فيه عباد أهل القبور؟!

(إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون).

وقد أوضحنا هذا أبلغ إيضاح في رسالتنا التي سميناها " الدر النضيد في إخلاص كلمة التوحيد

How strange is this talk that, people have creed for the person who have normal knowledge and small muarifat that he have authority over good and preventing the pains of people, he is in the Ummah of That Prophet who said (I possess no power over benefit or harm to myself)

And this man is in followers of Prophet, have you ever heard about more big deviant talk?? Like what these worshipers of grave say? Inna Lillah wa inna iliyhe Rajioon

We have mentioned in detail on this issue in our Risalah Ad dur al nzeed fe ikhilaas kalmia tul tawheed (end)

• This is the hadith Qadhi Shawkani is Talking About

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: When the words “And warn your tribe (O Muhammad) of near kindred” [al-Shu’ara’ 26:214] were revealed to him, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O people of Quraysh (or words to that effect)! Ransom yourselves, I cannot avail you anything before Allaah. O Banu ‘Abd Manaaf, I cannot avail you anything before Allaah. O ‘Abbaas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, I cannot avail you anything before Allaah. O Safiyah, (paternal) aunt of the Messenger of Allaah, I cannot avail you anything before Allaah. O Faatimah, daughter of the Messenger of Allaah, ask me for whatever you want of my wealth, I cannot avail you anything before Allaah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2602) and Muslim (206).

And then Qadhi Shawkani went on and mentioned the bad things of domes on graves

• al-Shawkani says in الدر النضيد في إخلاص كلمة التوحيد page no: 150

If this is not kufr then there is no kufr on EARTH!(end)

• Sultan Al Khijandi said

قال الإمام أبو الوفاء علي بن عقيل الحنبلي رحمه الله : إن من يعظم القبور ويخاطب الموتى بقضاء الحوائج ، ويقول : يا مولاي ويا سيدي عبد القادر : (إفعل لي كذا) ؛ هو كافر بهذه الأوضاع ، ومن دعا ميتا وطلبقضاء الحوائج فهو كافر

Imam abu al wafa Ibn e aqeel hanblee rahimullah said: Who ever glorifies the graves and talks to the dead and says: O Mawla! O Abdul qadir: Do such to me', he is indeed kafir and whoever makes dua to the dead, he is kafir [Kitab hukam ALLAH al wahid al samad page 44]

The portion O Mawla Abdul Qadir is a portion from the author of this work to depict an example,same and detailed Ibaarath from Talbees Iblees of Ibn Al Jozi

• Ibn e jozi said regarding deviants.

One of there habbit is that on the 15th night of shaban they visit the graves... and they take the mud from the grave of saint

Then he quoted ibn Aqil that Ibn e Aqil said

قال ابن عقيل: لما التكاليف على الجهال والضغام عدلوا عن أوضاع الشرع إلى تعظيم أوضاع وضعوها لأنفسهم فسهلت عليهم إذ لم يدخلوا بها تحت أمر غيرهم قال وهم كفار عندي بهذه الأوضاع مثل تعظيم القبوروإكرامها بما نهى الشرع عنه من إيقاد النيران وتقبيلها وتخليفها وخطاب الموتى بالألواح وكتب الرقاع فيها يا مولاي افعل بي كذا وكذا وأخذ التراب تبركا وإفاضة الطيب على القبور وشد الرحال إليها وإلقاء الخرقعلى الشجر اقتداء بمن عبد اللات والعزى

"Ibn Aqil said: “When these obligations were hard on the ignorant and rabble ones, they diverted themselves from the positions of Shari'a to revere positions which they laid down for themselves, so it felt easy to them as they will not be regulated by the order of anyone except themselves.” He added: “To me, they are kafir (infidels) due to these positions; like revering the graves and paying respect to them with things which are forbidden by Shari'a like burning fire, kissing the graves, roaming around them, addressing the dead with sheets (of requests) and notes on patches which say like this: "O My Master do such and such for me", and taking the soil for getting blessing, pouring perfume on the graves, undertaking journey to visit them, hanging shreds with trees, as imitation to those who worship Lat and Uzza.

Talbees Iblees of ibn e jozi تلبيس إبليس/الباب الثاني عشر chapter تلبيس إبليس على جمهور العوام

• Ibn e Aqil said

لا يخلق القبور بالخلوق , والتزويق والتقبيل لها والطواف بها , والتوسل بهم إلى الله

Graves are not made for kissing and decorating and roaming around and begging them for ALLAH [Ibn e Muflih quoted al furoo 2/272]